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Husker Extra live chat: Chris Basnett, 12.21.16
Talk Husker hoops with Chris Basnett during his weekly live chat, this Wednesday.
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Guys, I really appreciate the discussion today. Unfortunately, I have to shut things down for now and get some work done. Thank you to all who participated, and I hope everyone has a good holiday season. I'll be a part of our chat before the Music City Bowl Dec. 30, so we can talk Nebrasketball again then. Thanks again, and we'll talk again in 9 days!
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@Sylvester: Good question. I don't think so, but if there's a complete meltdown in conference play then I'd say the seat gets pretty dang hot. I've thought all season that he gets at least one more year after this one to try and make it work with the young guys, but it's tough to tell.
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@JL: Schedule makers didn't do the Huskers any favors, did they, with those two road games to start out. If I was going to pick one game I think they can win, it's the Maryland game. Terps are 12-1, but haven't played the toughest schedule. Three one-point wins over Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Georgetown, an OT win over Richmond, and close wins over American and Towson. It'll be holiday break up there, so I can't imagine the crowd will be too terribly intimidating. Indiana might be the best team in the league, so I think that's a tough matchup for the Huskers.
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@Austin: I said before the season that I think they can go 9-9. I'm sticking with that for now, but reserve the right to change my mind later on :) I think the B1G is down a little this year. The three teams at the top: Indiana, Wisconsin and Purdue, are all excellent. But after that I think there is a lot of parody. If the Huskers can protect home court and steal a couple on the road, they'll have a chance for a good finish.
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Obviously looking at the last two games, it's tough to see how NU wins a lot of games in the league. But I'm sure the thought in the locker room is that they bottomed out against Gardner-Webb and started the climb back up against Southern. Stay healthy, start making shots and keep developing the young guys, and who knows what could happen?
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Watched game on BTN2Go last night. Several observations: In 1st half, Gill made several shots and then got subbed out of game. Why take someone out when they've got it going? Same comment about Tschmanga in 1st half. Scored 3 times, then subbed out. Why? Why let Michael Jacobsen EVER shot 3 point shots? it's not his game. Keep him underneath.
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The rotation thing has been puzzling, I agree. When you're 11 games into the season, you would think you would have something figured out by now. On the other hand, Nebraska has struggled so much offensively that it might just be a case of trying a bunch of different lineups to see what works.
I also agree on Jacobson. He's 3-20 from 3-point range, and all the makes came in back-to-back games, if I remember correctly. It's probably time to end that experiment. As for Tshimanga, it was nothing he did wrong. Miles said they wanted to go small in the second half, and when they do that, Jordy is the odd man out. But he did play well last night. He's come along nicely. -
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@Sylvester: I don't know that it's fair to call it a complete failure. Miles took this team to the NCAA Tournament in 2014, a place they hadn't been for 16 years. He generated buzz around the program that had been missing for a while. Now at some point, you have to win consistently. There's no denying that. And the shtick would start to wear thin on me if I were a season ticket holder and watched up.
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Anyone who has played basketball at any level knows that after you've made a few shots and feel "hot", the last thing you want to happen is to get "subbed out". Seems like Coach Miles is so set on rotating every 5-6 minutes that he pulls people out that could continue scoring if given the chance!
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@ron@georgetown: If I was a player, I would frustrated too. But I've also never met a shot I didn't like so maybe I'm not the best person to offer an opinion on that. I would hope that it's being communicated before the games what the substitution patterns are going to be. For what it's worth, I haven't seen or heard any frustration from the players. Doesn't mean there isn't any, but I haven't seen it.
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@ron@georgetown: Man I feel for that guy. He's a super kid who just isn't getting it done right now. He had three wide open looks last night, and two of them rattled in and out. When it goes bad for him, it really seems to go bad. Sounds like his parents are visiting from Australia after Christmas break, so maybe that snaps him out of it. But the numbers aren't good. He's 2-14 from 3 his last 4 games, and 8-42 going back to the Dayton game. Take out South Dakota, when he was 4-9, and that drops to 4-33. Just a brutal stretch.
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Not to be brash, but I think everyone needs to simmer down on the Miles getting fired talk. Yes, the bad losses are bad, and the offense is stagnant far too much.
But the bottom line is talent wins out in college basketball, and Miles is bringing in more talent than we've ever had. Let's not forget that most of these guys that are playing are underclassmen and have little playing time. Give them some time to develop and it could be a special core group. Look how much Webster has improved under Miles and envision that with all the young players he had now. -
@HuskGuy: Yep, things are generally never as bad as they seem after a loss like that. I get that fans are frustrated. Hard not to be when a loss like that happens 3 years in a row. But you're absolutely right: the talent level here is better than it's been in many, many years. If these young guys stay in the program, it's easy to get excited about where they could be in another year or two.
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Do you believe the absence of Craig Smith is one of the largest issues with the program? I feel like we have more talent than the 2014 NCAA team and yet we continue to under perform. Particularly with game plans and x's and o's. You can say the current team is young - but Petteway, Shields, and Pitchford were all sophomores in 2014.
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@Ryan: Good question. Craig can really coach, and he's proving that at South Dakota. It's tough to say how much assistants affect things like that. But Smith was a guy who had been with Miles for many, many years. Have to think there's been an adjustment period for Miles since Smith left.
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I concur with HuskGuy observation about the "firing talk". We have 1 senior, two juniors (Gill - sat out last year and Evan - transfer from JUCO, 4 decent sophs with 1 year experience (playing fill-in roles last year around White and Shields), and 3 true freshman. Not much game experience there. Give it one more year, then see if results are better!
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@ron@georgetown: This is the stance I'm taking as well. And the guy who is maybe your most talented freshman, Isaiah Roby, sat for three months in the offseason while he recovered from the stress reaction in his pelvis. Miles has shown he can develop players: Webster, Petteway, Andrew White are the obvious ones who come to mind. I think Miles needs a good year next year, and he should have the team to do it.
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@Trash: That could certainly be part of it. I think it took Horne a little longer to adjust to the college game as well. It will be interesting to see how they use him going forward. I think he can be a really nice spark off the bench. He's obviously not going to get 18 every night, but I'll take a 6-7 guy who can score inside and out any day. When he's gotten minutes this year, he's played with a ton of confidence, and last night is going to help him even more.
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@HuskGuy: Yep. You just never know what's going to happen with transfers. I don't think 8-4 or even 9-3 would be too far-fetched if he was here. Then we're talking about what a great program builder Miles is. But, AW3 isn't here, so you have to make due with what you have. Can't change the past, certainly, but it's interesting to speculate where they might be with him.
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HuskGuy comment on target. You don't replace 18+ points per game at the last minute. White would have been good for 3 or 4 3's every game (at a pace better than 20%). Hopefully, Horne can pick up some of the slack now.
One other observation: Miles stated he needed to determine place for Horne in rotation. Short-term solution is ask him to do the same things offensively and defensively that he expected from McVeigh until McVeigh finds his shot. -
@ron@georgetown: Good observations from both you and HuskGuy. I can't imagine there's that much of a drop-off from McVeigh to Horne on the defensive end, and Horne is making shots and is confident. Will be interesting to see how they use him at Indiana. Hoosiers don't play much D, so there are going to be opportunities to get shots.
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@Trash: I don't think so. I was actually just looking at Syracuse's schedule and stats. They're 7-4, and it's not like they've lost to any great teams other than Wisconsin (who dominated them). White's averaging 16.2 ppg, and shooting about 41 percent from 3 so you're right - it looks pretty similar to what he did here. I don't see any way he gets drafted, especially with as talented a freshman class as this year's is.
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I agree w/ HuskGuy & Ron both about the youth we have & the loss of AW3. My question for you is do you think a successful program at Nebraska is middle of the pack B1G team most years with a top 4 conference finish on a 2-4 year cycle?
I'm picturing us as more of a program that can be middle of the pack 7-11 to 11-7 conference record occasionally up to 14-4, but going through the swing as a group of players graduate to be replaced by youth & inexperience. Unless we find a Bill Self, Roy Williams type(and Miles could become that) I don't see us every being at the Michigan State, Indiana level consistently. -
@Robin: I think that's a really good assessment. There are only so many truly elite coaches out there, and they're at places where it would be pretty tough/impossible to pry them away to come to Nebraska. I don't think it's unfair to expect a top-half finish every year, but some years that's going to mean finishing in the 6-7-8-9 range when you're going through a rebuilding cycle.
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@ron@georgetown: We were talking about this last night up in the media area. You're right. It's frustrating to see that. Jacobson is 6-9 and has good strength. All he's doing by using that dribble is giving defenders a chance to swipe at the ball. Gotta keep it up high and put it on the rim.
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@Braden: UNL is on Winter Break, so the students are all gone. Plus the weather Sunday was lousy, which surely kept some people home, as did the no-name opponent. You generally see smaller crowds this time of year, although the last couple have been smaller than in past years at PBA.
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For starters, we need to get the BEST player out of Nebraska high schools every year. Embarrassing to watch Creighton start to Omaha high school players that we didn't seem very interested in. Can't build a high school basketball program in Nebraska if the kids don't get offered or are more interested in other places. Go down the list of kids the last 5-7 years that have gone elsewhere.
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@ron@georgetown: In fairness, there were literally no schools looking at Justin Patton when he was a junior in high school. Creighton offered him, he accepted a week or so later, then he blew up over the summer between his junior and senior years. From a fan's perspective I agree with you: NU needs to at least make a run at the best 1 or 2 in-state guys every year. May not get all of them, but have to at least put in the effort.
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I've always said a coach needs go to the dance every 3-5 years here to be considered successful based on several things. He's probably going to have to hope he can find the guys like Jacobsen or Webster that stay all 4 years and develop late. Then surround them with a couple transfers or young talent. Balance that with attrition and your own transfers. Maybe catch fire on a 2-3 year stretch but then have a rebuild too. It's not easy. Tim should surely get one more year. But the AD will have some tough decisions and balance considering no extension was given last year.
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@Trash: Other thing to consider is that Eichorst didn't hire Miles. There always seems to be a weird dynamic with situations like that. You wonder how much patience Eichorst will have, or if Miles is even "his" guy. But your plan is a good one. I think that's what Nebraska has to do.
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Great point Ron - we need to get elite talent anywhere but need to also look at players who have been successful in our backyard. This was one of my biggest issues with Sadler's recruiting and what excited me when Miles was hired. His Colorado State team had 4 players from Nebraska.
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Even in the best days of the last 30 years of Nebraska basketball, Nebraska struggled to get Nebraska kids to stay home. One of the best I watched was Andre Woolridge who ended transferring to Iowa & having a good career there.
Besides Morrow & Jacobsen who else on the roster could be that "junkyard dog" ala Bruce Chubbick? -
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